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21:42:28 Agent Dunham
Shoulda paid a visit to the local witch doctor or whatever they have up in Redmond.
21:42:12 Agent Dunham
Third gen curse, third gen curse, third gen currrrrrrssssseeeeeeeee
21:41:37 Death Penalty
They aren't listening to their core at all.
21:41:27 Death Penalty
That always bothers me. It's what Sony did, it's what Nintendo did, and now Microsoft.
21:41:25 Agustazz
Lost it at WiiU being the post.
21:40:50 Agustazz
http://24.media.tumblr.com/404fbc551...6y7to1_400.gif
21:40:40 Jake
And consumers clearly never crossed their minds.
21:40:22 Agustazz
It was designed by a monkey.
21:39:55 Agent Dunham
Bobby Kotick needs those mils, yo.
21:39:28 Jake
The XO unlike the PS4 seems to have been designed with publishers, not developers, and executives in mind.
21:39:13 Agustazz
I never said I was gay there. That would have been useful.
21:39:00 Death Penalty
That sounds rough Gus. I'm sorry to hear it.
21:38:26 Agustazz
The company is not making profits, and they are having a hard time importing stuff (all other companies here are having the sam problem), so they are firing people.
21:38:05 Death Penalty
It shows a complete lack of response to or interest in the sentiments of your consumers and fans. It's just complete horseshit that they should ignore us in that way, and that's the part that irks me most.
21:37:33 Agent Dunham
Third gen curse, third gen curse, third gen curse.
21:37:07 Agent Dunham
Anti-gay. Sue.
21:37:05 Jake
Microsoft's arrogance got the best of them. It happened to Sony in 2006.
21:36:41 Death Penalty
Shit. What happened Gus?
21:36:24 Agustazz
I'm just a tiny bit sad, but only because it was awesome working there, despite working 8 hours 6 days a week, including holidays.
21:36:09 Death Penalty
I also can't blame anyone who finds the announced features unappealing. Look at the backlash. Look at the responses when these were rumors. Based on that alone, Microsoft should have gone in a different direction.
21:35:45 Agustazz
So, I got fired...
21:35:43 Agent Dunham
And it's like "You need Kinect, you need authentication on start up (maybe), half the feature list won't be available to you at launch and may never become available during the life of the machine"
21:35:23 Death Penalty
I'm about as invested in the Xbox as I am in the PS4. It's all about the games, man. Right now, Quantum Break is the only thing that has my interest from the One. The PS4 has Killzone and inFAMOUS. Advantage PS4.
21:34:19 Death Penalty
Hahaha, yeah, it does seem likely.
21:34:17 Agent Dunham
For someone like me, who has never been invested in the brand, it's not shaping up to be appealing so far.
21:33:55 Agent Dunham
Well, since Kinect is apparently required for the damn thing to function, why not exploit it?
21:33:46 Death Penalty
But if that's the case, I can just choose PS4.
21:32:50 Death Penalty
The one thing that does worry me is the strong prospect that, as Jake said, a ton of those fifteen exclusives could be shitty Kinect cash-ins.
21:31:52 Death Penalty
The sports game presentation was laugh-worthy, but those in all likelihood won't be exclusives so I don't particularly care.
21:30:46 Jake
"Xbox, Two and a Half Men." *Xbox shuts down* *Xbox implodes*
21:29:33 Agent Dunham
But still, I have to wonder if Average Joe gives a shit. If he'll be gesturing at his Xbox and telling it to put on favourite CBS property.
21:29:21 Death Penalty
I'll admit the TV features seem superfluous when pretty much their entire audience owns computers, but they've promised a game blow-out at E3 just as I'm sure Sony is planning.
21:29:03 Agent Dunham
I would probably go straight to HTPC, but I guess I'm an enthusiast like that.
21:27:19 Agent Dunham
Maybe that's the disconnect.
21:26:57 Agent Dunham
But then, the last time I had a console in the living room, the notion that it could do anything other than play games and DVDs was crazy future speak, like flying cars.
21:26:25 Death Penalty
The only thing that the PS4 announced that they didn't was stuff like social networking and spectating the games of your friends.
21:26:06 Death Penalty
They announced fifteen exclusives in the first year, saving features and demoing and downloading features.
21:25:58 Lymle
The ability to watch TV on it isn't bad, it just shouldn't be such a major selling point
21:25:13 Lymle
That's not the problem, the problem is that the reveal was mostly focused on the console's TV features rather than gaming features
21:25:03 Agent Dunham
But I'm not American, so I wouldn't be able to use it anyway.
21:24:47 Agent Dunham
Just seems arbitrary to me.
21:24:43 Death Penalty
I didn't bitch when the PS4 incorporated social networking despite my disdain for it. I'll elect not to use it.
21:23:51 Death Penalty
I suppose I don't see what's so wrong with more features on your console? It's not as though you have to use them, and if you want to own both things then voila!
21:23:40 Jake
In other news, if you're still rocking SD in 2013, and you're not a senior citizen, well, I just don't know what to say.
21:23:10 Jake
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=563105
21:22:59 Death Penalty
For me it's all about the games, and I haven't seen many from either console.
21:22:51 Agent Dunham
What is so offensive about hitting a button on a remote? Would you not feel like a twat, yelling at your Xbox to switch to TV-- No, wait, music! OH! XBOX-- GO HOME!
21:22:14 Jake
BUT IT HAS GESTURES AND VOICE COMMANDS.
21:21:44 Agent Dunham
"OH MY GOD, XBAWKZ, I'M MISSING AMERICAN IDOLLLLLLL CHANGE THE FUCKING CHANNELLLLLLLLLLL"
21:21:36 Lymle
I'm sure they can't wait to watch TV, on their TV.
21:21:12 Death Penalty
Say it and see.
21:21:10 Agent Dunham
Then again, the American TV audience...
21:20:43 Agent Dunham
What if I said that, DP? Or a European?
21:20:09 Jake
Because of what you just said, DP.
21:20:07 Death Penalty
I thought half the reason to play a mobile or handheld game was to watch TV at the same time, haha.
21:20:01 Jake
The Japanese probably won't rush to buy a PS4 anyway.
21:19:59 Lymle
It's not like the Xbox hasn't ever been US-centric
21:19:43 Death Penalty
Most Japanese gaming hours are spent on mobile devices these days, anyway.
21:19:24 Death Penalty
Eh, the Japanese were never going to buy it anyway.
21:19:18 Agent Dunham
That's a bad fucking job.
21:18:58 Agent Dunham
Where you've gone to the trouble of getting foreign press, streaming to an international audience... and you show them a bunch of US-centric features.
21:18:09 Lymle
"I wonder how Americans are gaming at home. Whenever I'm playing a game, I never feel like I want to watch TV, so the ability to switch between the two makes no sense to me."
21:18:07 Jake
No, Microsoft. The internet and streaming are the future. Catch up.
21:18:06 Lymle
I think this quote from a Japanese gamer sums it up pretty well:
21:17:48 Agent Dunham
Depends on your stance for certain "issues", I guess.
21:17:22 Jake
"Let's not talk about specs. Let's not talk about games. Let's not talk about secondhand policy. Let's not talk about online connectivity. Let's talk about tv because cable is totally the future."
21:17:01 Death Penalty
That's the internet I guess.
21:16:46 Death Penalty
But the hatred seems disproportionate to the things they are actually doing.
21:16:28 Agent Dunham
I don't feel like they used their time effectively.
21:16:27 Death Penalty
I'll agree. They revealed maybe one core game and a lot of unpopular features.
21:15:46 Agent Dunham
It was a bad reveal.
21:14:34 Jake
A militant lesbian.
21:14:29 Death Penalty
It's quite extreme. I've been browsing GAF.
21:14:15 Death Penalty
No, I'm really more referring to general outrage.
21:13:54 Death Penalty
Microsoft with the Xbox reveal.
21:13:50 Agent Dunham
And are you describing me as militant?
21:13:29 Agent Dunham
Which they?
21:12:35 Death Penalty
I don't feel so militant about the things they've done.
21:11:24 Agent Dunham
Tell you what, though, I'd sooner buy a Wii U than the XBO.
20:52:29 Death Penalty
At least the Wii U is getting its just desserts.
20:51:46 Death Penalty
Nintendoland. Wonderbook. This.
20:51:39 Death Penalty
These companies. What are we even going to do with them?
20:50:57 Death Penalty
If they can shore up a stronger batch of exclusives than Sony, though, they've done something very right at least.
20:50:40 Death Penalty
That might be a prudent mindset. I'm hopeful for more, but I don't have any evidence to base the hope on.
20:50:05 Jake
I'm preparing for a barrage of Kinect crap with a few games that might actually get my interest.
20:49:19 Death Penalty
A strong showing at E3 could swing sentiment back in their favor, though. Their conference was focused on the console and not the games.
20:47:30 Death Penalty
Looking at you, IGN.
20:47:22 Death Penalty
This reveal seems to have generated no good press where they didn't explicitly pay for it.
20:46:53 Death Penalty
Who knows what their final stance will be. They need to do some form of press-release that clarifies everything and speaks in a unified voice with no room for contradiction.
20:45:32 Jake
The game is also apparently linked to your account. So you could lend a friend the game, they could sign into your account, and play it. You and the friend obviously wouldn't be able to play the game on two different consoles at the same time, though.
20:43:14 Death Penalty
You know, just using one disk to install among three separate people on three separate consoles.
20:41:26 Death Penalty
Sounds like a big waste of money to me, but I assume it's to prevent people just sharing one used game among many by exploiting new One features.
20:41:04 Jake
That's what I initially read as well.
20:39:57 Death Penalty
The fee would be to run the game on the One sans disk, from what I've read.
20:39:53 Jake
If only there was a conference they could have have to clear all this up... oh wait.
20:39:10 Jake
In short, they have no idea what they're doing.
20:37:56 Jake
Well, DP, one thing I read said that. But MS has been contradicting themselves so often in the past day, it's not clear.
20:35:46 Death Penalty
I was under the impression that used games were confirmed to run perfectly fine as long as the disk was in the drive.
20:12:39 Jake
But it's clearly the publishers pushing this. So I'm sure they made very sure they get a fair cut.
20:12:07 Jake
That's the question. How greedy is Microsoft?

 




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