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 23:55:14
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That doesn't mean they won't do it anyway, though. I'll admit that.
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23:54:16
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As I just said, digital distribution SHOULD erase any need to raise prices.
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23:53:13
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At the end of the day games are a business, and companies kinda expect yearly growth, so...
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23:53:04
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I watched all four seasons over a week and now I have nothing.
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23:52:25
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You just don't see successful games subsidising experiments these days.
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23:51:57
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But in order for games to be profitable, the only choice would be to raise prices, if we assume the consumer base isn't going to grow much.
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23:51:56
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But I want to reiterate that it makes me so very happy that you seem to like Archer.
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23:51:44
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Also, this is way off-topic.
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23:51:29
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I need to see it to believe it. ;;
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23:51:06
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I'M JUST TRYING TO BRING SUNSHINE INTO YOUR LIFE.
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23:50:44
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More games being profitable arguably benefits consumers as well.
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23:50:42
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23:50:10
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I was talking about consumers.
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23:49:41
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I don't even think that's the correct usage for cynic.
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23:49:22
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How do you figure more profit HURTS the games industry again?
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23:48:48
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Again, as a cynic, no, they're just going to take the path of least resistance to - guess what - more profit.
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23:48:22
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It could seriously resurrect the B game if it becomes the standard. I'm quite pumped for digital distribution as a whole.
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23:48:16
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Because you're totally going to reap the benefits of that.
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23:47:56
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Something that has stopped completely is always harder to get moving again than something that is moving slowly.
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23:47:25
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If prices stay the same, games will be more profitable for the industry itself rather than the retailer. That's just aces in my book.
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23:47:20
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Because if you go down, you can come back up and up always looks good.
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23:47:15
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Nothing worse than losing momentum completely.
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23:46:56
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Obviously up is best, but going down is better than going nowhere.
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23:46:29
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23:46:21
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23:46:13
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Remember, static = THUH WURST
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23:46:06
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https://twitter.com/SQEX_EVENTS Please be excited.
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23:46:02
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If prices go down to compensate for physical retailers taking their cut, things would be the same.
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23:44:48
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Games are still more profitable for them by a wide margin, so that helps solve the AAA issue right there.
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23:44:45
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But there is already fluidity outside of that.
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23:44:31
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Current huge prices are in a large part because of the middleman that is the retailer. If the retailer disappears, prices can go down without affecting profit. And, if the industry decides not to lower prices as a whole, well...
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23:44:28
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The big-uns aren't going the change.
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23:44:17
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Watch them pull some BS about having to maintain the quality of the product.
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23:43:41
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And then as it takes off, the distributors will have to increase costs for the service and so game prices will go up.
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23:43:31
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But they have accountants. If they see that lowering the prices might aid them in the long run, they'll lower the prices.
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23:42:43
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23:42:43
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Yeah. They require the douchebags not to be greedy.
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23:42:36
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23:42:32
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Sales and other such incentives seem a natural conclusion, though of course both of those options require-
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23:42:17
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As a cynic, no, they'll just keep prices the same and enjoy their bonus money.
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23:41:34
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For one, digital distribution replacing retailers could easily lower the price of games.
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23:41:17
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Providing the consumer with convenience and multiple options is certainly a good idea, but I'm really hoping that this is a sign of initiative on the part of the industry itself.
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23:41:10
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Except hopefully they remain a quality developer afterwards.
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23:41:07
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But I haven't been to sleep yet so eat a dick.
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23:40:57
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I can see Nintendo becoming the new SEGA next-gen.
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23:40:52
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I meant reining, obviously.
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23:40:32
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Not at all. Digital distribution could open a huge variety of solutions for developers and publishers alike!
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23:39:58
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Console contracts. Joy. 
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23:39:56
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So you're focusing on consumers filling in the financial black holes as opposed to the industry reigning itself in and trying to be sustainable on its own?
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23:38:52
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It's a nice indicator, though.
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23:38:44
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No, I agree Shannon. I really would never choose that if it was up to me.
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23:38:28
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They seem to be using this as a time to try out all sorts of different models to find what works the best. Digital distribution is pretty clearly going to be huge.
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23:38:22
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Or maybe I'm just a filthy traditionalist.
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23:38:03
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23:37:34
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Pay as you go, try before you buy, strong integration of social networking... I'm not super worried about next-gen.
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23:37:13
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I don't see the consoles doing very well unless they go dirt cheap. The economy still isn't at 2005/6 levels. I had $400 for a 360 then. El oh el at having that now.
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23:35:52
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A static industry is a dead end and no one will invest.
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23:35:48
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23:35:00
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But the worst thing? The worst thing is if everything stays the same.
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23:34:58
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I think we'll just find a more sustainable model before we see anything drastic happening. It would be nice if gamers would start just buying games.
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23:34:18
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If the next gen doesn't see about 220-240 million units, congratulations, you're in a decline.
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23:33:55
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It'd be sad if next-gen consoles bombed.
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23:33:46
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Post-Wii is fine unless nothing replaces it.
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23:33:18
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As I said, the future is full of iOS games.
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23:32:18
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I don't have a degree in this stuff, I just talk about it as a hobby.
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23:32:14
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And if there is a crash, I don't expect it to be for the better. I'd expect the death of the core game before I'd expect the death of casual gaming.
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23:31:56
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There will be ups and downs, naturally.
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23:31:43
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Not unless Steven Spielberg makes ET 2.
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23:31:40
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Can there be a small crash? I thought that was just recession.
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23:31:33
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Homogenization is never a good idea. Look at the music industry for Christ's sake. Mega publishers need to be broken up.
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23:31:05
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23:30:56
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Although, to be honest, I do sometimes wish it would happen sooner rather than later.
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23:30:24
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I know. I just don't expect a crash.
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23:29:59
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I think you're being realistic. Although, they're often indistinguishable.
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23:29:37
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23:29:34
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I don't mean a "done forever" crash, I mean a "handy reboot" crash.
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23:29:14
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I don't think I'm being bleak. ;;
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23:28:47
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We'll see I suppose. I don't think things are quite so bleak.
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23:28:36
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But... sales have been down for months in the US, the UK is a joke and Europe is... I don't even know.
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23:27:58
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The sales get better year by year. The quality overall declines. I'll probably be done with games by the time I'm 30. I'll be content with playing older ones. And maybe keeping an eye on a few key franchises.
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23:27:58
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People aren't going to wait 5 years, if you are going to be what the monster chews on, you have to feed it.
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23:27:55
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However, the games the industry deems the "best" are generally the more viscerally engaging ones.
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23:27:13
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When TESVI sells 8 million in the first two weeks, I might be a little more receptive to the notion. But then to sustain it, they have to squeeze one out every year.
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23:27:02
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I feel like the games that people collectively spend the most time on right now are the "casual" games, lets say puzzles and the like. Perhaps purely because you don't need to invest that much time in it in one go.
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23:25:54
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I do think that the tastes of the general populace are expanding, though. A couple of total bros at my place of work were chattering like housewives about Dishonored, and a pure fantasy game like Skyrim can now be a bestseller.
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23:25:37
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Depends on your perspective, I suppose.
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23:24:57
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It gets better year by year.
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23:24:53
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But something has to be close at the peak or very early in the decline and I don't think there will be. I think the mainstream will move on before experimenting.
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23:24:44
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Pfft. This gen has been the best in the industry's history.
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23:24:08
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inb4 gaming industry needs a government bailout.
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23:23:50
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I'm not saying your thing could never and will never happen.
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23:23:12
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Maybe not as Call of Duty, but as some other shooter.
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23:22:51
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There's our key difference, then. I think the Call of Duty appeal to your average Joe is so core that it will always be present and huge.
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23:22:51
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Call of Duty is officially at "too big to fail", in my opinion.
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23:22:24
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And when that happens, the industry will collectively shit itself.
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23:22:22
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Look at how much Skyrim solid.
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23:22:19
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Maybe there'll be a game that just revolves around assassinating people with a small hidden bla- oh wait...
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