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that's more interesting than Serah's death and resurrection
Say what you want, her death And ressurection is pretty much the plot twist of the story, and considering you use her throughout the game, you must not like the game. If that's the case... Why are you here?
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Originally Posted by Phyxx
Enough about Serah, what about Snow and his brand and such?_?
As for this, it is pretty interesting. I actually have NO idea where they would go with that if they make a new game since he's trapped in the colliseum. I wish they would give you a hint to his damn focus... They just leave you with nothing like everything else in the game. Hopefully he doesn't become a Ceith. That would ssukkkkkkkkkk!
Don't worry, you're not the only one who felt sad about serahs death. I thing death is always a scary thing, but the way serah kept going on her journey despite her knowing about her imminent death.... It really shows great courage from her, and i totally respect that. Of course shes not as awesome as her sister or fang, but still admire her strong will to continue on. Not many people can look death in the eye and not waver.
Say what you want, her death And ressurection is pretty much the plot twist of the story, and considering you use her throughout the game, you must not like the game. If that's the case... Why are you here?
It wasn't a plot twist.. in XIII you pretty much did everything just to save her (Snow at least did) so it was obvious she'll be resurrected somehow... And there are more aspects in a game you can like and thank god more characters you can play. But if it were just Serah, without Noel I wouldn't have bought it..
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As for this, it is pretty interesting. I actually have NO idea where they would go with that if they make a new game since he's trapped in the colliseum. I wish they would give you a hint to his damn focus... They just leave you with nothing like everything else in the game. Hopefully he doesn't become a Ceith. That would ssukkkkkkkkkk!
Yup that's a thing that bothers me.. Like who made him a L'Cie? All Fal'Cie are more or less dead (Not counting the 3 big ones). Lindzei hadn't, Lindzei's brand looks different (I assume at least since all Cocoon Fal'Cie had a Lindzei-like brand and they were made by him). Snow's mark is the same Pulse mark he had before so I guess it wasn't Etro either which leaves just Pulse again or one of his Fal'Cie.. It could have been that it was left there, just reactivated again, something similar like Fang's did in XIII but Fang's brand never disappeared. Their's did, we could see that Sazh has no brand anymore, neither activated nor inactivated. So iI think he was rather rebranded than reactivated =s
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Say what you want, her death And ressurection is pretty much the plot twist of the story, and considering you use her throughout the game, you must not like the game. If that's the case... Why are you here?
Not really. just look back at everything and you knew it was coming when she started having visions. the only interesting thing about it was how, which was explained in the lightning DLC. second, just because Serah is playable through out the game doesn't mean I have to control her the whole time. and if I don't like the game, it will be because there are additional things I don't like about it. and to answer your last question: because I can be as long as I'm not bashing anyone, spamming, or causing too much unnecessary conflict.
I will admit, I only began to like Serah towards the end of the game. I felt like she acted younger, even though she's older than Noel! When she said that she didn't care about the fact she would eventually die, I had a lot of respect for her.
Lightning's DLC did make me cry, and I was happy but sad to see the sisters briefly "re-united". I'm sort of happy with the ending, but I feel like SE shouldn't have left the plot twist in Dying World at the end. I wouldn't play XIII-3, simply because I wouldn't want to play for hours to see the ending. (There's always Youtube though!)
I honestly loved both of these games. And the fact that they ended FF XIII-2 with to be continued definitely seems like they would make another one... hopefully. But, I liked Serah, and her role in the story. I think that Serah and Noel should be together 0.o.
I actually disliked FFXIII-2's storyline. Plenty of series (regardless whether story or game) tend to screw things up once they bring manipulating time into the story.
FF XIII was great. It showcased our main group struggling to outwit and defeat demigods of their homeplane, and had defining character development (and quite obviously so for half the group.) The only screw-up was that Vanille and Fang were frozen when they had envisioned the "Happy Ending", but even with that it was acceptable.
Then they retcon Lightning out of the ending with the "Etro's Intervention, Chaos Leaks Out" concept, leading us to the FFXIII-2 story. Messing with time was... quite the mess.
I think they took the criticism of FF XIII being too linear too hard and went "Hey look, we messed with time, so you can twice as much diversity visiting the same area in different timelines! How diverse is that?" But that's just in my head.
I'm not saying FFXIII-2 is terrible, I just personally disliked it and found FFXIII better.
And they still denied us the "Happy Ending They Envisioned". I think that alone warrants XIII-3.
And according to the mythology, now that Etro's Gate is open, Bhunivelze will awaken some way or another. Lindzei and Pulse should also return as a result.
Hopefully FF XIII-3 will be back to Fal'Cie slaying, except with the gods of the demigods instead.
That all said, if they were already planning it, FF XIII-3 will be out in 2-3 years time (around 2014-2015).
I'm not sure whether they will release XIII-3 in 2-3 years more like 3-4 years. If I know SE they want in their own twisted way, what the fans want. For that reason they will release FFXIII Versus first- THEN release XIII-3. Though I am not sure about that. Or I think they may do a double release one before the other within a VERY small time frame because this game is now indeed a trilogy.
Though I can see a small reason why Final Fantasy XIII-3 is planned.
In the entire Final Fantasy XIII there is no real pairing for Lightning except Hope and Lightning (Motherly) relationship. However, with all the fandoms that I've seen, most have FLight and Hoperai pairings with a small number of others on the side. Snow and Noel had Serah, Sazh was like the father figure. Fang and Vanille were together for about 500 years. So... this is speculation, the reason FFXIII-2 was created was to create a time gap where Lightning doesn't age, (Forever 21) and for Hope to catch up (14-24) so a pairing can be created without the 'public' to find anything wrong with it.
Another reason was this series was to tell the tale of the crystal and the mythology behind the Fabula Nova Crystalis. So, when Hope called the new Cocoon Bhunivelze it may mark another chapter in the mythology.
Finally, we all know now SE likes to lie in some way or form, because quoting Toriyama, "We sincerely hope that the story of Final Fantasy XIII-2 will bring hope and courage to many people’s hearts." I really don't see much hope being brought into my heart after playing through the game...
Besides, who in their right minds put the 'To be continued...' in a series and does NOT continue it? If you could list 10 please prove me wrong. (I doubt they would put a 'to be continued' and not finish it if they have the budget.)
Let's just hope Final Fantasy XIII-3 Wraps up this story because despite the fact that I would LOVE to see Lightning in all her badassery. This story is pretty much over once they solve everything... That and I'd love to see where Final Fantasy Versus XIII will go.
That and Lightning and her "Happy Ending They Envisioned" hasn't been given to us yet, especially with the ending Final Fantasy XIII-2 has given us. I felt like it was HUGE slap in the face, all we did, all those fragments were all for nothing... (World consumed by Chaos... What kind of happy ending was that?!)
Just putting my opinion out there.
I'm not sure whether they will release XIII-3 in 2-3 years more like 3-4 years. If I know SE they want in their own twisted way, what the fans want. For that reason they will release FFXIII Versus first- THEN release XIII-3. Though I am not sure about that. Or I think they may do a double release one before the other within a VERY small time frame because this game is now indeed a trilogy.
Though I can see a small reason why Final Fantasy XIII-3 is planned.
In the entire Final Fantasy XIII there is no real pairing for Lightning except Hope and Lightning (Motherly) relationship. However, with all the fandoms that I've seen, most have FLight and Hoperai pairings with a small number of others on the side. Snow and Noel had Serah, Sazh was like the father figure. Fang and Vanille were together for about 500 years. So... this is speculation, the reason FFXIII-2 was created was to create a time gap where Lightning doesn't age, (Forever 21) and for Hope to catch up (14-24) so a pairing can be created without the 'public' to find anything wrong with it.
Another reason was this series was to tell the tale of the crystal and the mythology behind the Fabula Nova Crystalis. So, when Hope called the new Cocoon Bhunivelze it may mark another chapter in the mythology.
Finally, we all know now SE likes to lie in some way or form, because quoting Toriyama, "We sincerely hope that the story of Final Fantasy XIII-2 will bring hope and courage to many people’s hearts." I really don't see much hope being brought into my heart after playing through the game...
Besides, who in their right minds put the 'To be continued...' in a series and does NOT continue it? If you could list 10 please prove me wrong. (I doubt they would put a 'to be continued' and not finish it if they have the budget.)
Let's just hope Final Fantasy XIII-3 Wraps up this story because despite the fact that I would LOVE to see Lightning in all her badassery. This story is pretty much over once they solve everything... That and I'd love to see where Final Fantasy Versus XIII will go.
That and Lightning and her "Happy Ending They Envisioned" hasn't been given to us yet, especially with the ending Final Fantasy XIII-2 has given us. I felt like it was HUGE slap in the face, all we did, all those fragments were all for nothing... (World consumed by Chaos... What kind of happy ending was that?!)
Just putting my opinion out there.
Making another game just to give Lightning someone to fuck with is kinda lame.. and you're stating that as one of the main reasons. That's just stupid... And from XIII it was obvious that the relationship between hope and lightning was and probably will never be the one of lovers.
About the 'to be continued'. You say that they didn't continue it. Well they DID. It's called Requiem of a Goddess.
And about the happy ending.. See thing's aren't always the way you see it, or want to see it. Considering the circumstances it was a happy ending for Light. She is alive and got out of Valhalla, she was reunited with Serah, Serah died happily. The game was all about reuniting the sisters and since Light knew that Serah will die all the while... that's pretty much a happy ending.
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@Cain
It was simply speculation I didn't mean any offence. And no that is not what I meant with the pairings. It was mearly speculation becuase of the big age gap removed.
The loose ends presented in XIII-2 were barely answered. For example what happened to Noel and Hope? The Bhunevelze? Where is Snow? What is Caius and Yuel starting? On to the DLC, despite heartclenchingly dramatic, it only created an image of Serah accepting her death not really a 'to be continued' (Veiwer opinion). If however that is the continuation and the story ends here... Then I am a bit disappointed because I, as a reader, did not enjoy how they decided to use the same ending they did in the original storyline then show Lightning in what looks like AF700 Dying World.
I respect you opinion and I was mearly stating my own opinion.
Okay onto what you said about the happy ending. Intrestingly put, reuniting of sisters. Yeah I think I can see some form of happiness in that, but to me, the game environment was really depressing and I personally enjoyed the original XIII then.
Whether or not the game ends there I will be satisfied becuase despite the loose ends, what you said about the reuniting of Serah and Lightning in its odd way clicked but not satisfying So I will ask you, did you truly and honestly think that dlc wraps up the story. Because what I saw was, serah accepts death and passes on, Lightning puts herself into supposedly eternal sleep while Valhalla destroys everything else. I'm not sure... Eh... But if XIII-3 does indeed release then we'll find out.
Finally: about your reaction to my 'main' reasons they were small HINTS not really reasons. But yes making a game for a character to fuck with isnt a good reason. However you cannot deny that this may be some form of plot development if any. Again XIII-2 has many loose ends that the DLC doesn't cover. What it did cover was how Lightning turned to crystal and Serah's death looking from an overveiw (without analysis).
This is mearly my opinion, you don't need to shoot it down like you did above. If you don't agree with it show some form of reason why it can NOT be a reason. Again what I meant by 'small reason' it was more of a 'Hint' (sorry for my word choice that caused you confusion).
I'm not being offensive this is just my persona. I stated it above already in a post. To me FFXIII-2 is just an attempt of the team to use junk material left in the production of XIII in the most confusing and non-logical way. And I don't get why people just can't accept the ending just cause it's not the pinky-colored ending where everyone's in love and holding hands and blah. Lightning said it herself when Serah was stuck in her destroyed home town, after she get's out of the Void. She said 'This is the future I could not save' and since Light could see the timeline in Valhalla it pretty much indicates that THAT is the future. She told Serah to save cocoon and to fight Caius but still Light could see what'll happen from Valhalla. She knew Serah would die, so I guess no matter how many times Serah and Noel changed the future she always ended up seeing Serah die, else she'd told her which way would be the one to keep her alive. And Etro, don't forget she's a goddess, she knew what she was doing, she knows the hearts of the people. So I don't believe the theories that Yeul will end up being the bad one. Etro saw the good in her chosen ones-Light,Serah,Noel,Yeul and Caius. She gave Caius her heart and Yeul her eyes. Since she did that I believe she would have been able to take her heart away from Caius if she wanted but she didn't so in my opinion everything that happened was according to her will. And about Serah's death. Well it's clear Serah was made a seeres, like Yeul. If she's got the same powers as Yeul she should be resurrected again then.
On the other hand, if Etro is in fact dead I don't see any way for a happy ending in another sequel. The world is now Valhalla, with no time and no death. There's no way to beat Caius anymore cause there's simply no way for people to die. Chaos has taken over. Tough this Chaos thing bothers me, it seems to be an entity even stronger than the gods. It defeated Muyin, it was about to consume Etro too, as Light says 'Etro was fading' so, I assume even if the other gods return, Lindzei, Bhuni and Pulse they wouldn't stand a chance against Chaos too. They'd get consumed and vanish.
See this post is getting too long so I'll stop -.- and it's late here so Imma go to sleep. The game just makes no sense at all and is confusing.
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If they do make FF13-3, which characters do you think will be in your party? I have a feeling Lightning will be (based on the Requiem of The Goddess DLC.) However I have a feeling we'll see Hope, Sazh and Noel in the party also unless they are all dead.
If they do make FF13-3, which characters do you think will be in your party? I have a feeling Lightning will be (based on the Requiem of The Goddess DLC.) However I have a feeling we'll see Hope, Sazh and Noel in the party also unless they are all dead.
I just wish they ditch the whole "monster collection" thing
and give us back party members
I quite liked the monster party members and the customizations
but the more i played the game the more i missed
having a normal party member.
I would love to have Lightning back for good and as the main protagonist.
I just wish they ditch the whole "monster collection" thing
and give us back party members
I quite liked the monster party members and the customizations
but the more i played the game the more i missed
having a normal party member.
I would love to have Lightning back for good and as the main protagonist.
Yeah I think it'd be Light and Noel, and maybe Snow cause they are the one's who still got thing's to finish
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