Golden Sun for PS3?

[kewldude]

Originally Posted by Hextan

Well the first two games didn't have anything other than button input so why would I suggest that the game will go onto the Wii because of the motion controls? I wouldn't, it just seems like they would stick with Nintendo.

In that case, no prob. I was just thinkin about how Square shifted from Nintendo to Sony with FFVII

[Supreme_Gameslord]

Originally Posted by chaosblade77

I'm still not seeing where you think you could get things like CG scenes and quality voice acting from a Camelot game.

Not that they aren't talented, but they just don't have the manpower or money to do it. Camelot only has 33 employees, including management. Any cutscenes and hell, most of the game, would have to be outsourced. By the time it's all said and done it's not even really a Camelot game anymore.

Then the budget; it's unlikely they could even put together a budget for a big Wii RPG, much less a much more costly game on PS3 (or 360). It would have to be supported by one of their parent companies, which at the time I think are Nintendo (Lol @ Nintendo funding a PS3 game) and Sega. Wikipedia also has Capcom listed, but I don't know anything about that relationship. Sega might go for it since they seem to like risky propositions this generation, but I really doubt it.

And even if Nintendo doesn't have rights to the Golden Sun IP (I'm sure they do), they would have some say as to whether or not Camelot could work on a project like that since they own part of the company. I don't think they have majority ownership, so it's possible that they could get around that, but it would probably require almost every other shareholder to approve it. And considering the issues above, that's not likely.

I'm not saying it wouldn't be cool to have it a Golden Sun game on the PS3, or any Camelot RPG really. I'm just pointing out that it's probably more likely that Gears of War would go to the PS3 before Golden Sun.

Well Nintendo does have both money and manpower.
So if Camelot needs it,it should only ask and Nintendo would send unlimited amoun of money and some girlpower.
But Nintendo hates CG's(it probably has sometning with FFVII not being released for N64(for which was originaly developed),but for PS instead),so it is unlikely that ther will be a lot(if any)CG's.Sure there was some CG's in Baten Kaitos and Fire Emblem for Gamecube,but still.

If they are stupid,they will sell Camelot to Sony,just like they did with Rareware to Bill Gates...idiots.

[chaosblade77]

Originally Posted by Supreme_Gameslord

Well Nintendo does have both money and manpower.
But Nintendo hates CG's(it probably has sometning with FFVII not being released for N64(for which was originaly developed),but for PS instead),so it is unlikely that ther will be a lot(if any)CG's.Sure there was some CG's in Baten Kaitos and Fire Emblem for Gamecube,but still.

Hates it? They don't use it often, but most of their games also don't need it. Check out the Metroid: Other M trailer, it's got a ton of CG scenes.

Originally Posted by Supreme_Gameslord

If they are stupid,they will sell Camelot to Sony,just like they did with Rareware to Bill Gates...idiots.

Rare is a completely different story. The former majority owner of Rare (which wasn't Nintendo) sold all of their shares to Microsoft. It did Nintendo no good to have partial ownership when Microsoft had majority ownership and could basically overrule everything Nintendo wanted. So Nintendo sold their shares too.

[Supreme_Gameslord]

Originally Posted by chaosblade77

Hates it? They don't use it often, but most of their games also don't need it. Check out the Metroid: Other M trailer, it's got a ton of CG scenes.


Rare is a completely different story. The former majority owner of Rare (which wasn't Nintendo) sold all of their shares to Microsoft. It did Nintendo no good to have partial ownership when Microsoft had majority ownership and could basically overrule everything Nintendo wanted. So Nintendo sold their shares too.

Well as far as Nintendo's interes for CG's go,I can only say that every rule,has its exeptions.Then again times are changing so perhaps Nintendo is also changing about certain things.

Nope,you are wrong about Rare.
The former majority owner sold their sheirs to Nintendo and Big N had 100% stock ownership when they decided to sell Rare.
Everyone from fans,to gaming journalists and market analisation experts were shocked and surprised when Nintendo did it,and for how ridiciosly small amount of money.

[chaosblade77]

Originally Posted by Supreme_Gameslord

Nope,you are wrong about Rare.

Quoting Wikipedia:

"Up from the end of 2000, people from Activision and Microsoft visited Rare. In November 2001, Microsoft trademarked It's Mr. Pants, a game that was released three years later. In September 2002, the Stamper brothers sold their 51% interest in Rare to Microsoft; following this, Nintendo sold their 49% stake in the company as well. Microsoft paid a total of $375 million to own 100% of the company."

First old article I found about it:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/09...rms_rare_sale/

I've heard the Stamper brothers offered to sell their shares to Nintendo first and Nintendo declined, but I have no idea whether or not it's true. Regardless, Nintendo never owned a majority share of the company, much less 100%.

[Supreme_Gameslord]

Look,I am new to this site and I dont want to be known as troobelmaker from the very begining since arguing is strictly forbiden by Forum Rules.

I will say it once more and than you believe whatever is that
you want to believe.

I was very interested in all things Rareware ever since days of Blast Corpse,Golden Eye,Banjo Kazooie and Jet Force Geminy.

I guess it is possible that UK Nintendo Offical Magazine and some other Nintendo 64 magazines as well as some UK and US multi-platform magasines all lied about certain Rareware's and Nintendo's bussines moves.

No doubt Wikkipedia can be very usefull,but its popularity is mostly due to the fact that its free and anyone can post anything they want,and not due to its acuracy.There is a lot of complete garbage on Wikipedia.

Personaly I hate Wikkipedia(I like to call it Shitipedia) because often the info I was searching for,in the end turned out to be very inacurate or completely wrong.

Still the amount of money that you mentined is indeed the ammount that I've read about in gaming and/or financial magazines or heard on CNBC or somewhere similar at times when the actual deal was happening and eventuly unfortanetly happened.
Nintendo said that they decided to sell Rareware because the ammount of profit they were gaining from Rareware's games was just a few %(5% I think)of their total fiscal year profits.In other words, what they ment is that it was to little for Nintendo's Kjoto HQ to bother.
So they figured that selling Rareware to M$
for some pocket change would be buissnesvise a lot wiser move instead of keeping the mighty Rare for themselves.
Everybody was in disbelif(I shoud check on Wiki if I speld it corecly)and I mean everybody of how strange(and stupid)Big N's reason and excuse was.

Today more or less everyone runs to Wikipedia like its some kind of holy grail of encinclopedyc and other knowleage.

Don't believe in everything you read there(Among other things I've also read about snake 1000feat(300 meters)long that was apparently caught during 19nt or early 20th ceantury when I was looking about some information about Anaconda's since snakes fascinate me)without checking with some nonWikipedia sources(I am talking about information in general,not only about Big N & M$ Rareware deal).

Still I guess it is possible that your information is indeed what and when realy was.That you are correct and that I am wrong.


If you are interested to continue,I would prefer PM(dont want to be baned after 3 days).

Cheers:-)

[Weegee]

Originally Posted by kewldude

We've seen Final fantasy make the shift from the retro and GBA to the playstation for better tech and graphics.

What do you think of the chance of Camelot moving to the PS3 after Golden Sun DS for its nest Golden Sun game to provide a really exceptional, long adn graphically amazing game for the current and next gen consoles, instead of just handhelds like the DS?

I personally think it will be a great move if they do it. Even if they make it multi-console, since the PS3 is getting its motion controller next year, so if they need motion control in anything, which they might, especially in those puzzles of theirs, there wouldn't be any problem making it multi-platform. The only difference would be the clear difference of quality in the graphics and amount of data considering the blu-ray dics for the PS3.

Perhaps then we could get some really awesome CG cutscenes and voiceovers from Camelot for Golden Sun Ps3 or whatever

.Btw, sorry for the deceiving title

Sorry But Golden Sun is TOO good for Sony or Microsoft, and besides many fans of the series would much rather have it to stay with Nintendo, and also not every game needs to move to Sony right away, and P.S it is best to stay on the GBA/DS/3DS consoles anyway, plus I think nowadays Final Fantasy is terrible, I still love the older games on NES and SNES more than VII and the other ones, thats why I never bought the new ones, and Golden Sun and Golden Sun The Lost Age are better than Final Fantasy VII, VIII, IX, X, XI, XII, XIII

Also I don't care about the Graphics at all, like a TRUE gamer, I care 70% on the gameplay, 20% on the Plot, 9.99% on the Nostalgia, and .01% on the Graphics

[Aurelia]

Originally Posted by Weegee

Sorry But Golden Sun is TOO good for Sony or Microsoft, and besides many fans of the series would much rather have it to stay with Nintendo, and also not every game needs to move to Sony right away, and P.S it is best to stay on the GBA/DS/3DS consoles anyway, plus I think nowadays Final Fantasy is terrible, I still love the older games on NES and SNES more than VII and the other ones, thats why I never bought the new ones, and Golden Sun and Golden Sun The Lost Age are better than Final Fantasy VII, VIII, IX, X, XI, XII, XIII

Also I don't care about the Graphics at all, like a TRUE gamer, I care 70% on the gameplay, 20% on the Plot, 9.99% on the Nostalgia, and .01% on the Graphics

Hmmm where have I heard this before? Oh right!





















Be grateful I didn't nickpick any more of your post.

[Ethan]

He deserves more for being nearly 1 month shy of bumping a 1 year old thread.

[Aurelia]

You're right he does.

[Weegee]

I don't hate Final Fantasy VII or 8, and besides I am NOT a Nintendo fanboy, I have my on personal Opinion about games as well, I still think Older games are better than newer games, like Super Mario Bros. > Sackboy, Duke Nukem 3D > Halo, Wolfenstein > Call of Duty, and Doom > Dead Space, since most gamers always say Graphics > Gameplay, well I think that is BULLSHIT, just like AVGN I still think Gameplay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Graphics, what I find is stupid is that Gamers HATE motion controls, despite the fact that they want Graphics to change, but never Improve Gameplay, I am a fan of Nintendo, but also a Fan of Sony, and Atari, but I still don't like the Newer Final Fantasy games (mainly XIII), and I love Nostalgia, and plus if Golden Sun was moved to PS3, the games would likely suck ASS, since I know that (not Sony mainly but it's dumbass boss) would take more time on the Graphics than the Gameplay, I still don't give a shit that VII or 8 were on PSone rather than N64

[Thula]

since most gamers always say Graphics > Gameplay

Do we hang around in the same internet?

[Ethan]

Originally Posted by Weegee

I don't hate Final Fantasy VII or 8, and besides I am NOT a Nintendo fanboy, I have my on personal Opinion about games as well, I still think Older games are better than newer games, like Super Mario Bros. > Sackboy, Duke Nukem 3D > Halo, Wolfenstein > Call of Duty, and Doom > Dead Space, since most gamers always say Graphics > Gameplay, well I think that is BULLSHIT, just like AVGN I still think Gameplay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Graphics, what I find is stupid is that Gamers HATE motion controls, despite the fact that they want Graphics to change, but never Improve Gameplay, I am a fan of Nintendo, but also a Fan of Sony, and Atari, but I still don't like the Newer Final Fantasy games (mainly XIII), and I love Nostalgia, and plus if Golden Sun was moved to PS3, the games would likely suck ASS, since I know that (not Sony mainly but it's dumbass boss) would take more time on the Graphics than the Gameplay, I still don't give a shit that VII or 8 were on PSone rather than N64

Wow, that was incredibly random.

Personally, I think you have some anger issues. Aurelia's post wasn't a personal attack but a pretty good point nonetheless. Also, I think you missed her point, and made up a bunch of points that you thought she was insinuating.

I'm also unsure as to how you think you have the authority to tell us how "most" gamers feel in relation to graphics, gameplay, etc.

And then you skip "most" and just go right into "Gamers HATE motion controls". That's a pretty big generalization there, not too fair don't you think?

Also this inequality confuses me: "Super Mario Bros. > Sackboy, Duke Nukem 3D > Halo, Wolfenstein > Call of Duty, and Doom > Dead Space"

[Darkangel-XI]

The Rare that Microsoft owns is pretty much a completely different company from the N64 era one. They haven't really produced anything amazing since Nintendo sold them.

Also, I'm pretty sure Nintendo partly owns Camelot.